Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/27/2004 01:32 PM Senate L&C

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     CSHB 419(RES)-REGIONAL SEAFOOD DEVELOPMENT ASS'NS./TAX                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CON  BUNDE   announced  CS  HB  419(RES)  to   be  up  for                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DAN OGG,  sponsor, said  HB 419  came out  of the                                                               
Joint Legislative  Salmon Task Force.  Fishermen wanted a  way to                                                               
tax themselves so they could  develop their seafood products. The                                                               
idea  initially  came  from  the  Copper  River  where  fishermen                                                               
advertise  their  Copper  River  Red  Salmon,  the  first  salmon                                                               
fishery of the year and they  are highly prized in the west coast                                                               
markets. Some  of the  grants to help  develop their  program are                                                               
ending  and  other areas  of  the  state  have  got the  idea  of                                                               
marketing regional  fish. Kodiak  and Cook  Inlet are  working on                                                               
similar programs. Twelve  regions were developed in  the state in                                                               
which to administer  these programs and each area  would have one                                                               
program. The bill allows 21  percent of a region's permit holders                                                               
to apply  to the Department  of Community &  Economic Development                                                               
(DCED) for an election to form  an organization. If 51 percent of                                                               
the permit holders vote in  favor, they form an organization. The                                                               
bill allows them  to tax themselves in an election  in which they                                                               
pick a .5, 1, 1.5 or 2  percent taxation rate. If it passes, they                                                               
have established their assessment. This  bill also gives them the                                                               
power  to provide  an infrastructure  for improvements  like fish                                                               
chillers for members' use.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE OGG  explained that  folks could  untax themselves                                                               
with the same  method. Twenty-five percent of  the permit holders                                                               
could ask for a new election to untax.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. JERRY  MCKUNE, United Fishermen  of Alaska (UFA), said  a lot                                                               
of fishermen  in the  state are excited  about this  bill. Grants                                                               
are drying up as  the sponsor said and this would  allow a lot of                                                               
fisheries to raise  $200,000 to $300,000 at the  1 percent range.                                                               
This  will  also allow  fishermen  to  work with  processors  and                                                               
others in  the communities to  put promotional  programs together                                                               
and get more  value off the salmon and work  on quality problems,                                                               
such as installing ice machines in remote areas.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE asked if he knew of any opposition to this bill.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MCKUNE  replied  that  probably  some  fishermen  would  get                                                               
worried with talk about taxes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     If you have a use for  this money, you have to convince                                                                    
     your  fleet  to take  this  on  and have  an  election,                                                                    
     you're  going to  have  to do  some  education of  that                                                                    
     fleet  to  convince  them  why  you  want  to  use  the                                                                    
     money....  plus  every fisherman  gets  to  sit on  the                                                                    
     committee that's  in that particular fishery.  So, they                                                                    
     all get to have their say....                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Some areas  probably don't  have need  for it  or won't                                                                    
     have  a need  for  it for  a while  until  they have  a                                                                    
     separate  fishery. When  you break  it down  to certain                                                                    
     fisheries, there  are some gillnet  fisheries I  see in                                                                    
     the state  that could probably  do this right  away and                                                                    
     try to  get this passed once  it's on the books  and in                                                                    
     other fisheries,  like seine  fisheries, it would  be a                                                                    
     little  bit  more  complicated and  would  have  to  be                                                                    
     talked through to whether that's  going to be a benefit                                                                    
     for them.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARY STEVENS asked Representative  Ogg to explain how the                                                               
voting would  take place  and how latent  permits would  be dealt                                                               
with.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OGG replied  that this  issue received  a lot  of                                                               
discussion  and the  recommendation of  the task  force is  to go                                                               
with 50  percent of the actual  permits voting, which is  how the                                                               
aquaculture voting is set up and it works fine.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE asked if the size of a quorum was discussed.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGG replied:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The mechanism  in which  the ballots  go out  - knowing                                                                    
     how fishermen are and being  one myself - sometimes you                                                                    
     don't get the notice. So  you are sent out two ballots,                                                                    
     two separate  mailings. So, you're most  assured to get                                                                    
     everybody  and it's  pretty clear  what's going  on and                                                                    
     it's in  your high interest to  participate. If there's                                                                    
     latent fishermen  who aren't fishing, they  won't pay a                                                                    
     tax, because  they don't have any  product that they're                                                                    
     selling. Once they  start to fish again,  they will pay                                                                    
     a tax.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MCKUNE added  that each region has to publish  two notices in                                                               
a newspaper.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR SEEKINS asked if there is  any requirement to make sure a                                                               
ballot was ever received.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGG  replied no; nothing  more is needed  than the                                                               
two mailings to addressees on the limited entry permit cards.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BUNDE asked  what level  of participation  the aquaculture                                                               
associations have among eligible voters.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE OGG said he didn't know.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MCKUNE replied  that the  Prince  William Sound  Aquaculture                                                               
Association had  an 80 percent  return when it first  started. He                                                               
thought the same would be the case with this program.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE postulated that an  election wouldn't be valid unless                                                               
10 or  15 percent of  the permit holders participated  and wanted                                                               
that discussed  in the Finance  Committee. The way it  is written                                                               
now, two out  of three people could decide an  issue. Although he                                                               
doubted  that would  happen, he  also sees  low voter  turnout in                                                               
general elections.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  SEEKINS asked  if other  forms of  notification that  an                                                               
election is going to take place are required.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MCKUNE  answered that the  bill requires two ballots  and two                                                               
notices  in the  newspaper of  the region  in which  the election                                                               
will take  place and a minimum  of two public meetings  must take                                                               
place.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARY STEVENS  moved to pass CSHB  419(RES) from committee                                                               
with  attached   fiscal  note  and   individual  recommendations.                                                               
Senators Hollis French, Ben Stevens,  Ralph Seekins and Chair Con                                                               
Bunde vote yea; and CSHB 419(RES) moved from committee.                                                                         

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